tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7198919109494775375.post7951249315681542216..comments2023-03-15T00:47:39.270-07:00Comments on StreetMagick: Approaches to magickMusicfoxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15107605810982102070noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7198919109494775375.post-75329745036442547422011-04-29T03:33:49.239-07:002011-04-29T03:33:49.239-07:00Well you live and learn ;)Well you live and learn ;)Argenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15271897496326977593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7198919109494775375.post-35711929845965957812011-04-24T21:30:44.364-07:002011-04-24T21:30:44.364-07:00I'm sorry, I thought because you allow comment...I'm sorry, I thought because you allow comments you were open to discussion and dialog. I believe that no one ever stops learning, and that a good way to learn more is through dialog. I wasn't aware you knew everything and had nothing more to learn. I won't insult you by commenting on your posts in the future.<br /><br />FFF,<br />~Muninn's KissMuninn's Kisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12950767190932974289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7198919109494775375.post-2803471429054785252011-04-22T23:43:30.186-07:002011-04-22T23:43:30.186-07:00@Munin>
Actually the lines are just as clear cu...@Munin><br />Actually the lines are just as clear cut as I wrote.<br /><br />I also do not understand which oart of the metaphor regarding the two approaches being 2 almost completely overlapping circles do you have a problem understanding.<br /><br />When petitioning higher entities you are doing thaumaturgical work. When sticking a name paper into honey you are not. Nothing will ever stop you from doing both, for say a practial love spell.<br /><br />In the same way as killing yourself in a final sacrifice to a specially nasty boddhisattva will also contain both theurgic and goetic elements for liberative purposes.<br /><br />I have no idea what you are calling "Witchcraft" so I am not even going to enter that discussion. However the difference is essence is always whether you actively use it for an inner alchemical purpose or not.<br /><br />Otherwise they are simply two completely different approaches.<br /><br />if you don't believe me, try sitting with a linus machine for a while and compare it to a machine running Windows.<br /><br />There is no low&high, better or worse sentinment in this. There is no pathetic Everything is essentially spirit, or Everything is essentially mind paradigm division here. <br /><br />Contemplate, read earlier posts and put what I am saying into the perspective you will then get. If you still have an issue head over to Strategic sorcery or head for the red. I think discussions are more welcome there.<br /><br />These posts are not speculations. It is as it is, trying to state it in ways as many people can understand as possible. Almost every single post has been aimed at approaching the same thing using different ways of doing it. <br /><br />Do try and find the red threadArgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15271897496326977593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7198919109494775375.post-19301545260699585162011-04-22T12:04:06.053-07:002011-04-22T12:04:06.053-07:00I think the lines here aren't as clear cut as ...I think the lines here aren't as clear cut as you make it sound. A hoodoo/conjure/rootwork practitioner making an offering at a cross roads to get something to happen is definitely "influence divine beings that will then do something for you", as is the traditional witch making an offering to the spirits he works with. In hoodoo, the inclusion of reading Psalms or other Bible verses and the prayers, aren't there just there for fun. They are there to get God or the Saints (for Catholics) to make the working work. And the use of spirits is strong in all forms of magic that I know of. In all magic, it is rituals, it is art. Are the hoodoo or witchcraft rituals actually different in essence than ceremonial magic, or just in form? My craft is definitely not ceremonial magic, but you would be amazed how easily elements of ceremonial magic integrate in and compare. Of course, I have an easier time working with Jewish Kabbalah than the Golden Dawn material.<br /><br />FFF,<br />~Muninn's KissMuninn's Kisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12950767190932974289noreply@blogger.com